Italian Resources. German Resources. Mandarin Chinese Resources. Hindi Resources. Portuguese Resources. Korean Resources. Japanese Resources. Russian Resources. Other Language Resources. Written by Donovan Nagel. Read time 2 mins. For instance, around he said the Quenya word 'la' means 'yes', but around he had changed his mind and said it meant 'no'.
So no it is, but you have to know both sources to say that. This means, if Tolkien gives you, let's say, six Quenya words for one English word, it may be that you have to ignore five of them. Even worse, you may have to update what Tolkien wrote earlier.
For example, in Sindarin you form a plural of a noun by altering its vowels. In the s, Tolkien said that an 'a' in a final syllable first became 'e', then 'ei', and then 'e'. So Adar is a father, Eder are the fathers. In the s, Tolkien changed his mind, usually changing ei not to e but to ai in a final syllable. So a human is Adan, the humans are Edain. Think of the Dunedain mentioned in LotR, the men of the west. However, there are several words that Tolkien mentioned in the s and didn't mention afterwards.
So, what do we do if we see Tolkien tells us in the s a word called Adar with a plural Eder? We should adjust it to Edair; we have good reason to believe Tolkien would have done the same. The problem which is really more philosophical than linguistical is that, even though we apply Tolkien's rules to Tolkien word's, we are coming up with an Elvish word that he never provided, we are changing his language.
And, back to the point, one may have to do a lot of research to write proper Neo-Elvish. That is the actual difficulty when you try to learn Elvish, not just to know the Elvish history, but also to know the history of Tolkien and how to deal with it. Many just give up and say one simply can't deal with it, it's all too ambiguous. The problem remains, Tolkien never wrote "the one book" on Elvish. There are several notes scattered, and the last notes I'm aware of were published in , so most but not all of the secondary literature on the topic is potentially out of date.
Theoretically, a consistent and well-researched dictionary that ignores every concept Tolkien had abandoned, a dictionary, which only minds grammar concepts and words that Tolkien would still have approved in , is possible, but those dictionaries are still in the making. However, two of them are already pretty complete:. Eldamo even updates words like Eder and marks them respectively as updated. For all that, you need to use the Neo-Eldarin Word Search the Academic Word Search would list you everything Tolkien ever wrote in six decades, including all the contradictions and including words Tolkien later explicitly abandoned.
Most of them will be fine. Tolkien told us the roots and affixes to form ancient Elvish words, and we also know the rules that govern the historical development of Elvish in the more than years Elves have existed in Middle Earth.
Eldamo has hundreds of articles on the history of each language under the phonetic sections, but you need to be quite a linguistic expert to understand them. If you can say anything against Eldamo, it is definitely not that it's not scientific enough.
However, some of the neologisms are, at least to my ears, semantically weird. Also, do mind that Tolkien's life is in regard to Elvish divided into three sections, the first of which started in the s and ended in It's common to ignore everything he wrote in that time since then he has just changed his languages too much and to treat everything he wrote before with great care. The most reliable words are those from - Parf Edhellen is not supposed to be the one dictionary, but rather a website that combines all dictionaries which LotR nerds have created over the years - including Eldamo, but also including older ones that use outdated materials.
This means, if you search for, say, one Sindarin term, you may get five results; one from Eldamo, one from Ardalambion, one from Hiswiloke, and so on. A huge plus of Parf Edhellen is that it has flashcards you can learn, and a community with most of the greatest Tolkien experts alive, whom you can ask questions in the forum. Now, if we come to grammar, that's the tricky bit. Eldamo has several helpful grammar articles on Tolkien's languages, but though the existing articles are very profound, half the articles that should be there are not yet written.
It may, however, still be useful, especially for Quenya. It's also from , so as up to date as you can get, and well researched too. However, I would not suggest you to start with Sindarin. Quenya is more complete, with more data on grammar and vocabulary.
It's also easier to learn and Tolkien changed his mind there less frequently. It's quite common for Elvish nerds to start with Quenya, and I would recommend it too. On the general discussion section on Parf Edhellen, you should find a link to a Quenya course called Atanquesta that deals with Quenya-grammar. I hope this helps, but you really have to be incredibly motivated to learn Elvish, not just because there are thousands of words to learn, but also because, regarding the grammar, most primary and secondary sources are written pretty technically, and unless you're a linguistic-geek, you may get easily discouraged by that.
The thing that worked best for me was starting with vocabularies and doing grammar later. Vocabularies are easier to learn, and it's harder to give up if you've already learned a lot. I want to learn elvish. But I think we should wait for them to finnish the finnish course.
Please let there be Elvish to learn! I would devote myself to learning such a beautiful language. English translation: what grace is given me let it pass to him let him be spared.
Tokien devolped such an elegant and complex language, It seems odd to have it tied to only the books and movies. Would love an elvish class :. An Elvish course? What a wonderful idea!!!!!!!!! Yes please it would be much easier to learn like that!!!!!!!!!
Mae G'ovannen. I am a huge fan. I really hope that Fuolingo puts Elvish up here soon. I will spend every waking minute on it if they do. Let me just point out that it is very incorrect to say, I want to learn elvish, because you would be disrespeful to the artful words, sayings and script by mixing them up. I know this is an old post, but I would like to chime in to say that I would also like to learn both Quenya and Sindarin.
Hopeful that this is still something being considered. Get started. Who wants to learn Elvish? July 19, July 20, January 19, August 1, September 24, November 10, October 12, January 31, April 15, Ever since reading The Hobbit I've wanted to learn Elvish…. Did you know Tolkien was a linguist? September 27, DarkPlatinum Plus. January 24, Please please please make an elvish course!!!
I don't care what kind!! January 29, I say we should convince people to create a sindarin course. September 23, April 12, May 20, December 22, February 19, November 16, April 3, I want to create one, but idk how.
January 8, February 20, August 24, February 23, March 8, April 25, Oh please do. May 2, May 12, I would really like to learn Quenya. I am a huge fan of hobbit and LOTR. Sindarin, Quenya's simplified form, lasted much longer. But that wasn't supposed to scare you.
Quenya was developed by the Noldor and the Vanyar Elves, and it was adopted by the Valar too. Quenya has two dialects - Vanyarin and Noldorin. Valar used more the Vanyarin one, probably because of their relations to the Vanyar.
Actually, they are so similar that a person can easily be confused. Long ago, Qenya was witten in the Sarati runes, but for a short time. Later, Elves started to use Tengwar. Quenya was actually developed from the language that Valar used, it is a softed and simplified version of "Valarin".
The Valar did adopt this language later. Sindarin is the language that was most spoken in Middle-Earth during the Third Age. The language came out from the Common Telerin, and was adopted by Noldori when they came across the Sea to Middle-Earth. The men of the West had spoken this language until the Island sunk.
This language was spoken amongst the Elves and Men in the Lord Of The Rings movie trilogy, nevermind the sountracks that contain Quenya scripts.
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